Subject: ivy-X:: SUPERSCIO Excerpt from Pilot Post Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 19:44:50 +0200 From: The following message is relayed to you by ivy-x. ** (I found this interesting, and it will no doubt be interesting to others who have "attacked" the church OT 3 and or NOTs levels, and perhaps read the Pilots Cosmic History. It was posted on act, with the title Excerpt from Pilot Post by ID32@webtv.net (ID32) (I could not see where he got it from) I had often wondered why the philosophy which early on began to emphasise that the final responsibility for one's condition was oneself, should come to such an about turn to where certain people got to the extreme state of being afraid to contact non-Scientologists in case body thetans (disembodied spirits) jumped off from the non "OTs" onto themselves - admittedly I have only heard of one case so extreme, but I have come across fear of Body Thetans in people who hve run qute a few (supposedly).. All the best, Ant) ************************* I found this interesting: ID32 ---------- .... And Ron knew better. He even has a handling for start of time and beginning of track type stuff back in 1963. Just move the pc to a month before start of time. Aha! And he'd even run pcs through magic track, see the neat descriptions in the 1MACC tape "Principle incidents on the whole track". So why didn't he look a trifle before incident 1 and see magic universe, and why did he tell others not to look? The big charge on incident 1 is not being pushed into it, it is on pushing others into it. He probably got a glimplse of that. And this is when he had slipped into that "only one" and "I am the single source" type dramatization that he seems to develop in the 1965-7 time period. Just guessing now, but I can imagine him getting a glimpse of pushing somebody else into incident 1 and saying to himself, "Oh my god, I'm the guy who pushed everybody into incident 1 and got us all stuck here" and flinching at that. And then he didn't want to look and he didn't want others to look because it would miss his withhold. Except that he wasn't the only one. We all pushed each other into incident 1 endlessly. The thing does not stick or hold you here unless you have pushed somebody else into it with the intentions of trapping them. Early on we come out pretty fast and then try and get even by pushing others in. It is about as common as little kids dunking each other under water in a swimming pool. It's not even a question of did you do it or not, its just "how many times?" So it's no big deal. But when I first got a glimpse without real confront or seeing this in context from the other side, it was this shuddering horror of, "oh my god, did I do this to others?" And I wasn't being an only one, so I was only considering that I might have been one of the guys who did this rather than the source point. And even so it was tough to face up to. So if Ron was looking at it that way, I don't blame him for backing off even though it was the wrong thing to do. ........ Best, The Pilot