From: pilot@scientology.at (The Pilot) Subject: SUPER SCIO - KOOS - THE END OF ENDLESS TELEPATHIC SEC CHECKING Date: 06 Nov 2000 00:00:00 GMT Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology KOOS - THE END OF ENDLESS TELEPATHIC SEC CHECKING Koos has been a long time fixture on ARS and ACT, posting endless RI- bulletins concerning his telepathic remote metered sec checking of various people, especially the dis-incarnate soul of L. Ron Hubbard. Recent reports are that he was arrested for the death of his 19 year old daughter Freya and is now in a mental institution. Note that Freya used to post occasionally on Koos' behalf. For those who aren't familiar with the events, I've included a number of postings which describe the situation at the end of this message. ----------- I'm very sorry to hear about this situation. I would be delighted to hear that this is all false information, but the indications right now are that it is all true. I would not lay the blame on the orthodox Scientologists or the Critics or the Freezone. All three groups pretty much considered that Koos was nuts and tried to discourage him from his actions one way or another. I will say that occasionally he had a useful insight or provided an asthetic turn of phrase or a bit of humor. For that he has my thanks. But mostly he sec checked and he ranted. And I followed what I considered to be proper behavior, which is to live and let live and allow him to say what he wanted. And I still believe that that is the correct thing to do. The regretable death of Freya did not come about because we allowed Koos freedom of speach. As to its real cause, I think that we need to wait until real details of the circumstances are available, it still might just have been a regretable accident. But we have heard Noel Tenite state clearly that Koos was abusive etc. (see below) and we know for sure that Koos was a real fanatic about sec checking. And that is what I want to talk about. KOOS CARRIED SEC CHECKING TO ITS ULTIMATE EXTREME. If you keep looking for crimes, eventually you will begin creating them. This makes for a very bad frame of mind. In fact, sec checking and making others guilty could be thought of as a way of making other people guilty and making them wrong. And Koos was, perhaps, the master sec checker, extending the idea to its extreme logical conclusions. And it didn't work. His current state is a sorry one, whether or not it is deserved (I will not pass judgement). And so I have to conclude that the idea itself is flawed. Forgiveness is a hell of a lot better philosophy than searching for other peoples crimes. WHAT ABOUT BLACK DIANETICS From the last of the messages below, I get the idea that Koos was basically a good person who was overwhelmed by charge. I do not believe that the simple action of communicating or running a process would put anybody into the sorry state in which he ended up. It is simply not forcefull enough. LRH once said that insanity is made. And so the question becomes who made Koos so crazy. And the only answer worth considering is OSA. I have no proof, no evidence, and not even a rumor as to what might have happened to him. But I will guess from the observed effect created, that somebody messed around with him at a level that went beyond any simple mental actions and included physical universe impingment. Early Dianetics includes a description of Black Dianetics, which is the use of the Dianetics data in a reverse manner to implant and lay in engrams that compel and abberate the victim. The critics will be quick to point out that this is not entirely workable and I will agree. I do not think that the use of pain-drug-hypnosis as described in the early materials would actually create a hypnotic slave. But I do think that PDH could make somebody spin like crazy and start talking like a loon. And that brings us to the final question: Did OSA PDH Koos? Is that the real why on his mental state? I don't think that anybody has even raised this question. I can't answer it. I have no data. But it is a damn good question. And I can imagine a poor sod knowing that there is something out of view and having just enough training to be driven to hunt for it but not really knowing enough and therefore barking up the wrong tree and chasing after LRH telepathically instead of finding a real incident of an OSA PDH style implanting. Think about it. Best, Ken aka The Pilot Some other posts about Koos are below. ----------- The original posting (probably by OSA) of what appeared in the newspaper. This appears to have been verified by the critics. > From: ARS_incites_hate > Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology > Subject: FLASH!!! Critic arrested on suspicion of murder > Date: 25 Sep 2000 11:45:57 -0700 > Message-ID: <8qo6h502rgv@drn.newsguy.com> > > This is a story Tilman failed to report. > > Koos Nolst Trenite taken by police for suspected murder.... > > A friend in Munich sent me this translation of an article in Abendzeitung on > September 22, 2000. The names have been changed to hide the identity of the > family, but "Jakobus N" can only be Koos. This tragic event, was the result of > a deranged mind driven to violence by the hate spread on a.r.s. > > ABENDZEITUNG 22.09.2000 > > THE MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF FREYA > > Did the father kill the nineteen year old? > > Freya N. was only 19 years old when the ambulance was called to her death on the > 25th of December 1999. When the medical man entered the room, a bad feeling > came over him: In the whole house in the small village near Forchheim, the song > "Oh Haupt voll Blut und Wunden" (Oh Head full of blood and wounds) by Bach > resounded deafeningly. > > The father of the deceased, Jakobus N., and his son Nils (18) were standing > motionless in the room -- no crying, no sorrow. The doctor called the police. > The autopsy established that Freya N. had drowned. Three quarters of a year > later, her death is still considered unsolved and the public prosecutor is > investigating. > > Yesterday morning, the police picked Jakobus N. up in handcuffs -- he was sent > to a psychiatric clinic because he was considered to be a public menace. > > For several years, his family was subject to his methods of torture. He > tortured his wife Carla (named changed) with gushes of cold water. The 60 year > old: "What if he has done the same to Freya?" > > On that day in December, after Freya's death, Jakobus N. gave a letter, written > by Freya, to the criminal police: "This morning, I took another cold bath of the > minutes," his daughter had written the morning of the day of her death. Which > 19 year old voluntarily takes a cold bath in winter? And notes that down? The > answers can be found with Carla N., Freya's mother. After years of torture, she > took refuge in the womens' house in Nurnberg in 1997. When the artist met her > husband 24 years ago, he was a member of the Scientology sect. Jakobus' life > goal, to move up in the sect hierarchy, was however prevented by sect leaders. > > In that time, Freya and Nils were born, and in 1983, Flavia. At that time, the > family was living in Heidelberg. When the weak baby was sick and could hardly > breathe, Jakobus forbid calling a doctor or using nose drops, and Carla obeyed. > Ten days after her birth, the child suffocated. The doctor attested the sudden > death of the child. In the Internet, he later distributes his delusion. "L. > Ron Hubbard was trying to kill him hereafter," Carla N. describes his frame of > mind. Freya had to update the web pages daily. Carla N. succeeded in running > away to the women's house, and the children remained with the father. Just after > Freya's death, the public prosecutor proposed the father be arrested. Jakobus N. > remains in freedom, the police were searching for evidence. > > "Did Jakobus N. torture her to death?" a question the mother has been asking > herself over and over since then. The senior public prosecutor Friedrich Kraus > is still investigating the death of Freya. ----------- Further explanations from Koo's relatives. # From: "brett herrly" # Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology # Subject: Re: e-mail from Noel Nolst Trenite # Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:50:09 -0500 # Message-ID: # References: # # I thought this was a joke at first, because I thought Noel was Koos. # But, this same thing is posted on their web site. # # # "brett herrly" wrote in message # news:st2d4cask6rcf5@corp.supernews.com... > > To all who have been and are involved, > > Serious mistakes have been made in the research that was directed > by Koos Nolst Trenite. The hidden intentions of Koos, of who he > actually is, are now being looked into by me (Tulka) and Noel. Koos > had motives of self-importance and absolute certainty of his rightness. > > I received severe physical beatings by Koos, and severe vulgar language > shouted at me by Koos, for six to 24 hours at a time. This Koos > justified by various means, for instance that I refused to see his > viewpoint, or that I was being mindcontroled by various people to not > agree to him. I at that time accepted those physical beatings and vulgar > language, because Koos made me believe, during and afterwards, that I > was making it necessary for him to so called "restrain" me. > > No matter how true you might think the data to be, it still does not > justify those physical actions, and certainly not, if they are > supposedly coming form an Archangel. > > As you may have noticed when reading or listening to the data written > by Koos or recorded from sessions, the data was not looked or discussed > or corrected for errors by anyone else than Koos himself. This already > disqualifies the data form being research data. It is, as a matter of > fact, and especially under those circumstances, only information that > Koos intended to use in order to achieve justification for is actions. > > The physical violence and vulgar language by Koos, is not something > new. He did the same to Freya and also to Jutta, for his same reasons. > This behavior of his is not in any way justifiable, by anything. > > The Ambassador for Mankind Foundation will be closed. Koos is at the > moment in a mental hospital, and will be staying there for an unknown > amount of time. > > I still want to find out what actually is the truth behind all the data > that I have given in the sessions, and I will look into it in the future, > if anyone else is also interested in hearing the results, just let me > know. > > I and Noel are at the moment cleaning up the rests of Koos' mess, and > are tring to start a new life. I will be returning to San Francisco Bay > Area, Noel will be staring a new life in Germany. Any support that you > can give us, if emotional, or even physical, if by helpful contacts, > or even financially, to help us through this time. > > With love from, > > Me (Tulka) and Noel > > Noel Nolst Trenite > Herbstwiesen 10 > D-91090 Gaiganz > Germany > > Tel: +49 9199 697149 > E-Mail: Noel.Nolst@Trenite.de -------- And another email which may have important bearing on the situation. > From: cthyrunes@aol.com (Cthyrunes) > Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology > Subject: Re: why are scientologists trying to distance themselves from Koos? > Date: 28 Sep 2000 00:04:23 GMT > References: <20000927171854.14036.00001332@ng-fn1.aol.com> > Message-ID: <20000927200423.26672.00002509@ng-fi1.aol.com> > > I don't often speak, but I feel that I owe it to the Koos that once was, > to say something to the people who read this board. > > I knew Koos when he was normal. And believe me, he was a normal, fun > loving guy. He was intelligent and he was my friend. > > He was in training at GOWW for the position on AG. This was in 1974. > > He returned to his country and by 1979 he was out of the Guardian's > offfice, and under a non enturbulation order for having written attacks > on Jane Kember, and other executives. > > Within that short 5 year period (1974-1979) he had become > seriously unstable. The "Church" disowned him. > > But, in 1974 he was their trusted, and honored member. So well thought > of, that he was chosen for a year's training at WW. > > We can only guess what occurred during his intensive training (which > of course would have included extensive security checks and other > special "GO" Eligibility auditing. > > He was my friend. > > Over these past few years I have tried to communicate,, to find the > friend that I felt was buried in there someplace. But, I never even > saw a glimpse. > > And Monica is right, he would have been thrown out of the church > (believe me, they disowned him quickly and without sorrow), > with nothing but a huge fear of all that smelled of psychiatry. > > How OSA can blame the tragedy that may have happened here on chatting > critics is beyond speech. > > Some people need to look at their own hands. > > Cathy > PS Koos is not the only member I know who lost their hold on sanity > and reality AFTER having become members. ----------- A last comment on Cathy's PS. Again, I can't believe that simple communication or following some spiritual ideal could really cause somebody to lose their hold on reality. The danger is not in what is said but in what is DONE, by which I mean physical actions, whether an extreme like PDH or the simple fact of taking all of somebody's money or placing them in the RPF to do slave labor. Love, Ken aka The Pilot truthseeker7@excite.com ------------------ The free Self Clearing Book, The Super Scio book, and the "SCIENTOLOGY REFORMER'S HOME PAGE" are all over the net. See The Self Clearing Homepage for URLs to these sites http://freezoneamerica.org/pilot/selfclr.htmlOr see The Pilots Home Page at http://freezoneamerica.org/pilot/index.htmlSome translations are available, see links at freezoneamerica.org Also see the new www.fzint.org website. This post will be included in the next Super Scio Archive. See the Pilot Archives at freezoneamerica.ORG. Note that some of my posts only go to ACT. I don't actually use the pilot@scientology.at email address. That is just window dressing. I prefer to keep techical discussions out in the open. I watch ARS and ACT for messages with Pilot in the subject line. ------------------